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? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raising the eligibility age, means testing, things like that. so then we have about $600 billion in essentially spending cuts, half from mandatory spending, half from discretionary spending. this is the other very interesting thing that's new. $200 billion from revising the consumer price index. that sounds very technical. but it has very real world consequences because it very much could affect the money, the checks that social security recipients in particular get every single month because it effectively changes inflation so it changes the formula from what they would get. >> significant differences between the white house proposal on this part of the equation as well as on the tax equation. the politics behind this latest republican counterproposal, are they just go
hates the government? maybe singing a little different tune today. >> it's because government's now telling them stop dreaming, stop striving. we'll take care of you. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. >> cenk: the middle east is on fire, of course, what else is new, right? first we start in egypt where the new president has time to give himself unchecked powers with no oversight over his additions. tens of thousands of protestors marching on the palace. they've breached blockades barbed wire and it is a mess over there. they say this is the last stand and the last warning. over in syria the government is apparently moving its chemical weapons. now, of course is a red line for nato and the u.s. and even russia is concerned about this, saying if you use chemical weapons, then the international community will have to respond. already 40,000 dead in syria. >> in ir
, down the road an islamist-led government could use the constitution to deny them the right. they don't want to vote on this draft constitution. that's why they're out here protesting at this hour. >> reza, as always, appreciate your reporting from sicairo. >>> strong warning for syria's president not to use chemical weapons against his own people. nato secretary-general said the use of such weapons would result in an immediate reaction, his words. he described the syrian stockpiles as a matter of great concern and president obama has been warning of consequences if al assad makes what mr. obama calls the tragic mistake of using chemical weapons. former british prime minister tony blair voiced his concerns earlier on cnn. >> i mean now the death toll probably would be around 40,000, since this began, since a large number of people. but if there was any sense at all that assad was going to use chemical weapons or did use chemical weapons against his own people i expect a tough response that would be military. >> and nato is taking no chances by trying to protect one of its members, all
revenue for the government. >> well, a lot of people worry about the many years that japan has been in a slow growth environment, but they've kept interest rates very low in japan, but the problem is, government is too big. that's why japan has not been able to start growing again. and this is the path that the u.s. is certainly on if we don't change that dynamic. >> paul: kim, is there any recognition about this in washington or is it all -- i mean, do you hear any of this discussion or do they really believe, certainly, the white house and the treasury, that tax rates like this don't matter, at that ultimately-- >> no, they do to a degree. if you talk to the officials iran up, come on, so we're going to raise the rates, what is fascinating to put it in the bigger context of the debate about tax revenue, the economists have the static view, you've got x-amounts of capital gains income and you get 20% more tax revenue. >> you don't, because people decide to shelter it. they do their transactions the year before, when the amount is less. and so, all of these numbers that the white ho
in just a little bit more of their fair share, that would fund the government for only 8. 5 daition. it's not realistic. >> no. it's rubbish, all this. that so called buffett tax, if you implement that on warren buffett and all his pals, it will pay off obama's 2011 deficit in the year 2520 circumstance, in 514 years time, and then we'll need the next half millenium to pay off his 2012 deficit. >> i think the republicans were sent there with a mandate as well as president. obviously the american people voted for the status quo. they voted for divided government. here's the question i have. i would no want them to think os and grand hides and the slem hammer we're robbing them with. if obama wants to take the country off the fiscal cliff, they need to go there. they seem afraid of that. do you see that. >> it's clear from the election that the majority of americans essentially voted for european levels of spending. you can't have european levels of spending. we're one percent under canada. there's no difference any more, not in terms of government spending. we're close to norway. we're n
of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe am harm our economy. >> one conservative in the senate is breaking ranks with his party over the whole idea of raising tax rates with the party. tom coburn told msnbc today he would be okay with doing what the president wants, raising taxes on the wealthy, as long as it is coupled with entitlement reform and spending cuts. the reason we're told is because he believes at this point it's better to do that to get what he and other republicans want long term, which is a fundamental overhaul of the tax code, perhaps they can get that if they give the president what he wants now. you remember, coburn was among the first republicans a couple years ago to say it was okay to raise revenue. now he appears to be the first senate republican to say he would be okay with raising rates as long as it's part of that package we described. >> a meeting or a phone call between john boehner and president obama, is that at all in the works? >> as far as we know, no. whether it's in the works, we could only hope, at this point we do n
this before. >> some republicans believe that will give them more leverage. >> it's government at the brink all the time. >> these guys are not serious about negotiating.รง >> the next 72 hours are critical. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> let's just go over the [ bleep ] cliff. >> let's go over the cliff. >> at least for a few seconds it will feel like we're flying. >> with 26 days to go until america goes off the fiscal curb, the house of representatives chose to end their congressional business for the week today to enjoy a long weekend at home, but john boehner stayed behind and spoke by phone this afternoon to president obama. it was their first conversation in a week. also, this afternoon treasury secretary tim geithner said this on cnbc. >> when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000, if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> "the new york times" reports that senior repu
not focused enough on what the government can be doing to try to spur job growth? beyond just -- >> there was a stimulus piece in the offer from the white house that was laughed at by the -- >> laughed at but could end up surviving. one of the things about the president's initial offer is it may have sent a bad signal to conservatives but it did have the effect of getting his folks behind him and really solidifying that base it felt in the past he gives too much and doesn't go for big enough in the beginning. this whole question of what, if anything government can do to try to stimulate additional job growth, something that he as president has to be thinking about, even if he believes, and i think he does, the economy is turning around if we can get this debt piece off the table, that it's going to free up more economic activity. but there's still a lot of caution on the part of business. >> and looking down the road, chris cizilla, the president also has a lot of foreign policy challenges, there's a threat of another nuclear weapons test from north korea, you've got chemical
of the constitution and the government. >> gregg: conner, thanks. >> with all of this going on. america is certainly sending egypt plenty of money. they get the most foreign aid of any country except for israel. an assistant for egypt has averaged $2 billion a year and military aide has held steady at about $1.3 billion since 1987. >> gregg: turning to syria where a former officer of assad's military is leading a new unified rebel force. several groups agreeing to come together to battle the regime. it comes as britain's foreign secretary warns syria of using chemical weapons. the u.k. has contingent plans necessary if they launch a chemical attack with potential catastrophic consequences looming, what can be done to turn the situation around. steven yates will be with us just ahead. >> heather: north korea says it is preparation for a controversial rocket launch. big question now -- when? the rocket is on the launch pad and north korean leaders said the launch window would open monday but they are seriously considering readjusting the timing. united nations and others are condemning the launch sayi
. >> a controversay brewing on the u-c berkeley campus. between the student government and the salvation army. kron four's philippe djegal explains why some students want bell ringers banned from the university. >> if the uc berkeley government has of their way you will never receive the salvation army runners on campus ever again. and i think it has gone too far i would disagree with the band. and i think that the student body is discriminating against the salvation army. >> last month passed a resolution of the discriminatory practices of the salvation army and want to end the presence of the organization's donation containers on the uc- berkeley campus. students have mixed opinions >> and i think that if it is dividing the campus. >> from my stance, i believe that christians should be the bigger people. regardless, of what judgment is on one hand. >> the resolution states that the church services are only available for people that accept and abide by the doctrine and discipline. that excludes the homosexuality. the golden state of selvage an army responded to kron 4 and sang " totally false ". t
was, a detailed set of reforms in health programs, government programs over ten years, which are going to be tough, but we think they make sense. they don't like all those changes, they might want to go beyond that. but they have to tell us what those things are. you're right on the revenue side. we're proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that would be a good thing to do as a sensible economic policy, and we want to combine that with tax reforms that will limit deductions. there's no surprise in this. we have been proposing this for a very long time. the president campaigned on it and i think that's where we're going to end up. and i think that's there going to be very broad support from the business community and from the american people for an agreement with roughly that shape. >> when you talked about limiting the deductions there have been proposals from governor romney during the presidential campaign, and from other republicans, when you talk about those limitations on deductions, do you include the charitable deduction and the home mortgage deduction? >> i think
the immediate impact from the government coming back and spending wouldn't be that great. the question then is how do businesses and consumers react? i don't think it will be a pretty sight. >> what about the debt ceiling? there was a suggestion? geithner's opening bid that they do a permanent fix and give the president the operative control over whether or not the debt ceiling is raised. there's a lot of confusion out there about what the debt ceiling really is. opponents to this tend to argue this will increase government spending when you and i know it's just to raise the limit for what congress has already appropriated to be spent. >> in a perfect world a debt ceiling is a stupid way to run a railroad. congress should appropriate what it wants to appropriate. the white house and the executive branches should go ahead and spend it and that's the way you should run it. we're not in a perfect world and we have the debt ceiling. i don't see any possibility that the republicans are going to permanently give up the right to weigh in on the debt ceiling from time to time. on the other han
to keep the government on track and keep the nation from going off the rails? we'll talk about that. plus, the push for marriage equality could get a huge lift from the high court. we'll examine what's next for those who want to see same-sex marriage become the law of the land. meanwhile, in egypt, they are just trying to get a functioning government off the ground. we'll go live to cairo where along with tear gas the words in the air today are martial law. >>> first, though, some developing news from south africa where nelson mandela is in the hospital right now. the former president is undergoing medical tests. that's according to the government. these tests have been planned for some time, we're told. they are consistent with his age. he is 94 years old. a family friend not saying how long mandela will be hospital iced, but a government spokesman insists there's, quote, no cause for alarm. mandela spent some time in the hospital earlier this year. he had stomach surgery. he became a bona fide world icon after spending some 27 years in prison for fighting against apartheid. in 1994, he
for the disabled worldwide is to be active in this. [inaudible] many of these in the government do little bras little for their people. they often corrupt government i think the state department should strengthen its outreach in this important area and even drafted a statute law that required them to establish a department within their agency. they have is on their goals, but i don't think it domino leadership, and i think that is the way the government normally runs on here. you have a secretary of state, the president of the united states, and the secretary said certain priorities. you have to raise the level of priorities with the disabled. i truly believe that. i have a real clear vision. a vision of people when you have computer and a blind person with a disability or the a person with weakened vision can read it or the computer can talk to them. they talk to the computer and it talks back. it's not that expensive. that is one thing that we ought to be doing is advancing and ensuring that the equipment and devices and treatment better life transforming are given more emphasis by governmen
to govern and i can only govern if i make you understand that i'm not going to put up with it anymore. >> it seems like an outburst that has been two years in coming and is loaded with things like, we don't have control of the united states senate because of you, tea party people who have given us nuts as republican senate nominees. and boehner's life would be so much better if he was working with a republican senate instead of the democratic senate he is working with. >> yes. and also, though, i think this message is that the speaker, he wants to govern. the whole point of coming to washington is not just to slash, cut, close. it is about governing. and john boehner for whatever you think of him is someone that wants to get a deal. he wants to govern. by doing what he has done, he is saying, look. enough with the games. we don't have the senate as you were saying. the only way we can do this is if i pull on the reins a whole lot. not just a bit. that's what he's done. >> the striking thing is how much outrage there is not. we had to comb around to find these comments. thank you very
freedman brought us, that spending is really the tax bill. it's just delayed. so, every toll the government spends eventually they're going to have to take it from someone, either in taxes or in inflation, so, this is why you're seeing a lack of business investment is because this massive spending and huge debt tells every business owner, every investor, big tax are are coming to eventually pay for this. >> what was the point of the piece? i know there's hand wringing out there, maybe the folks on the right say under obama our taxes have gone up and we may more in taxes than we've ever paid and attempt to say, we're not-- >> this is long-term by the president and his allies to create an intellectual justification to raise taxes and in this case, they use the reagan years and often went back to times after world 2, where we were the only big kind of big, healthy industrial economy to say look, we grew then. and again, the point is that we're in a slow growth economy, high unemployment economy, a more competitive world thanks in part to our policies of the past, we need to compete and the hig
. >> there is no responsible way we can govern this country with those low rates in place for future generations. those rates are going to have to go up. >> house speaker john boehner appears to be struggling now that the president and democrats are negotiating for a position of power. talking points memo points out republicans are used to getting 70% to 75% of what they ask for in these types of negotiations but now speaker boehner is going on and on about how he's shocked and amazed at president's plan and is refusing to offer a counter plan on the republican side. you want to talk about this or anything else, join us online at current.com/stephaniemiller. we'll see you with more after the break. kind of guys who do like reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all of the time now. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers, thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle-room in the ten commandments, is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. >> wh
thing both sides agree on is the government needs to raise more money. how much? how they do it? those are two of the many sticking points and the clock is ticking. >>> a series of suicide car bombings leave five people dead in eastern afghanistan today. inis yo no reports of any u.s. casualties. the taliban has claimed responsibility for the attacks. >>> and in wyoming a college teacher may have saved the lives of several of his students. authorities are praising the instructor's actions. he tackled a man who barged into the classroom, shooting the instructor in the head with a hunting bow. more startling, the attacker was the professor's own son, according to police. the gruesome scene played out friday casper college. the local police chief explains what happened. >> the suspect stepped into the classroom where professor klumme was ready to begin the day, faired one arrow and struck the photographer in the head. the professor got up and even though mortally wounded he fought the suspect off. the students in the room were all able to escape during this altercation because of the cour
, there will be hell to pay for all of us. you know who will pay? the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from washington, d.c. tonight, breaking news from the nation's capital. house democrats are turning the screws on house speaker bain. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal is still out of balance. >> the president responds to john boehner, but democratic leader nancy pelosi has a plan to get around the speaker. tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radical right after senate republicans block a u.n. treaty on rights for the disabled because they are concerned about home schooling. you don't want to miss this tape. >>> plus my interview with ohio senator sherrod brown on what looks like a massive win for progressives and elizabeth warren. >>> then senator debbi stabenow
of the federal government. these senates don't have that view. there will be another generation coming ae long. iraq and afghanistan war veterans. it will be interesting to see how they perform. >> great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, ed. thanks. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. it was a strange bomb shell in washington today. a little bit of news that came from an unexpected source. bob woodward got his hands on an audio recording of the top commanding general in afghanistan meeting off the record with a fox news analyst. the meeting took place last spring. it was general david petraeus who was at the time commander of all u.s. forces in the war in afghanistan. and on the tape, fox news analyst says that she was asked by her boss, by the chairman of fox news to pass along some very specific advice for general petraeus. >> if you're offered chairman, take it. if you're offered anything else, don't take it. resign in six months and run for president. okay? and i know you're not run
of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes. but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see it -- a single dime in tax increases next year. >> so, john boehner, the speaker for the republican party in this partisan fight is saying, he's already socking it to the rich. he's willing to raise their taxes in various forms but just not the rate. isn't he agreeing in principle to the president's argument of fairness? isn't he in a weaker position to deny a rate change? governor? >> sure he is, chris. number one, he hasn't specified what deductions so we don't have a clue. number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the eco
years has been controlling the spending, the size and growth of government. controlling the ability of the government to confiscate more of your wealth, to trust more on the middle class and the working class, small business owners. and that's really kind of the link. and that argument, you talked about being primaried, that's the central primary argument that will be -- hit them upside the head in two years when they run is wait a minute. we sent you to control spending, yet you increased taxes. it's not increasing taxes on the wealthy, it's just blanketly you increase taxes. so you've got all this noise going on. and boehner's got to try to figure out a way to give these guys some cover but know he's got to cut the deal. to your point, leigh, about how do you begin to pull it from the big plan to a smaller plan, that's really what the white house and boehner quietly are talking about. >> and what we don't want also is i think a kind of down payment deal that sort of makes it a two-part deal that just delays everything. >> i think you're going to get some of that. i think you'll pr
the federal government -- the politicians here members of congress can't get their act together. but at any rate, you had one plan on the table. the president's plan. republicans saying the president -- there are too many questions and there's not enough specificity and -- baloney. president put out a plan about a year ago. it is in print. it is online. the president has a very specific plan. the republicans who didn't put anything on the table who had not countered with anything concrete at all. in fact, yesterday at our briefing, before boehner released his counter plan, jay carney said again that all you hear from the republicans are vague promises. >> you're making vague promises about achieving revenue through capping deductions or closing loopholes simply doesn't add up to a serious proposal. >> bill: so then yesterday the republicans realized they had to come up with something put something on the table. come up with this proposal which would cut $2.2 trillion over the next ten years. the president by the
wanted to kill in the first place. about "the heavy hand of government". i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really. really! that you're gonna lay people off because now the government's going to help you fund your health care. really? i wanna be able to have those conversations. not just to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying. and you know, i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. [ music ] >> chatting with you live at current.com/bill presscurrent.com/billpress this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv sglfrnings all right. thirty-three minutes after the hour, wednesday moving right along on the "full-court press." taking your calls on the opportunity i will have tonight. say a quick hello to the leader of the free world on your behalf. what's a quick message you think you want -- you would like me to pass along on your behalf? we will get right back to your calls and your e-mails and your twitter comments? just a se
predicted at this stage four years ago to the day, which is the rise of a pop list anti-government spending wing of the country and of the electorate. not anti-tax, anti-government spending. the tea party. you did get new voices talking in a different way. rand paul is not talking in the same way that a rick santorum or a newt gingrich has talked about. marco rubio doesn't talk. mike lee, there's a lot of different people who talk differently here. one question, chris christie is another. this class of 2010. that is an interesting wing. it's unclear whether that wing, if it is indeed a coherent wing, will now lead the discussion of the republican party. i think mitt romney, the analog to him is john kerry. he was a presentable, i think the other guys might not hate him type of former massachusetts -- >> went back into the senate afterward. >> the moment that he disappeared, that's the last you heard about john kerry from any democrat. he was like, enough, we're not going to do that again. there's a lot of republicans saying enough, we're not going do that again. the question is okay, what a
is the government party and the governing party. if the republicans want to play british parliamentary politics and vote as a unit against anything good, that's a screw up. >> look at it from the president' point of view. he ran on this for the last two years and he's -- >> shove it down their throat before christmas. >> we have two problems. one, we look ungovernable. i'm with you on that, chris. we look we have a party that will not allow the president to assume the governing authority he earned with an election. on the other hand, i think the world markets would -- have priced in, we disagree on that -- we can get away with -- the deal will eventually get done. exactly. that's the exact point. i think the markets believe we will eventually do the deal. it's just whether we do it before or after january 3rd. >> when you pay your bills on time you're impressive, when you pay them late, you're not. anyway, thank you. >>> coming up, maybe grover is not over. there's a great phrase. for a couple weeks republicans could be seen saying they were no longer bound, human bondage, to grover norquist, b
about the role of government than they are to supporting our men and women in uniform. what they have done today is laid their cards on the table. they will use each and every opportunity to keep their base paranoid, angry, in an effort to undermine our democracy. i believe there are smart, committed republicans there wanting to dedicate themselves to service our country. but they have to get this wing of their party in line. they are dangerous to our democracy. >> do you think there's sole searching going on? what have we become? >> i don't think among those 38 who voted no. i don't think so at all. i think with john mccain, who after all was the standard bearer in 2008, has mixed history with the conservative wing. even john boehner and i would bet you somewhere in the recesses of his heart and mind mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell is up in 2014 in kentucky. he never wins going away in kentucky. that's an issue there. there will be lots of others. but not these 38. they really do see it as the hand of the united states in world government reaching down into local towns in utah and t
back. govern governor mitt romney is platting his next move. he's considering a return to business maybe something involving charity or the mormon church. he's even thinking about writing a book. one thing he's not interested in ackorcording to the post-is helg the republican party rebuild its brand. the governor is in semiseclusion. there's images of him pumping his own gas. some saying he looks more relaxed. there was the public lunch at the white house with the president. there's the image of him pumping his own gas. how does this compare to the revelation that his wife had thanksgiving dinner from boston market. very american of them nonetheless sources say he's bored in southern california, the post writing devours news from 2,600 miles away in washington about the fiscal cliff negotiations shaking his head about what if. what is the future for mitt romney within the republican party, if any? >> well it doesn't appear that there's going to be a whole lot of one by his own choice. my colleague did an exhaustive look at what he's been doing. what he's not doing is involving hims
the connection between this situation and the situation we were in around 1995 when there was a government shutdown. republicans thought they could drive this to the bitter end, and what happened? the american voters actually blamed them, the republicans, for what happened. i think it's a pattern in american politics when things happen that are, in effect, harmful government shutdowns, if you will, or breakdowns of process, the blame usually ends up on the side of the obstructionists in the republican party. i think there are enough republicans who want to win re-election who see that the strategy of obstruction failed them in this last election. they want to pivot and make a rebrand of the republican party. those are the folks that are the deciding votes in the republican caucus, enough to combine with democrats who shorten that margin in the house to get something passed. >> an interesting note, erin. congresswoman bass mentioned another possible strategy from democra democrats. earlier told nancy pelosi tsd if speaker boehner refuses to schedule this for a vote, democrats will introduce
, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> u.s. officials tell nbc news that syria's government has ordered the chemical sites to be, quote, prepared. sparking fears that they could be getting ready to mix a deadly nerve gas. so the direct warnings president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton delivered to syria come as that country's ally, russia, signals that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for their own support for syria. joining me now is nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim jim miklaszewski. a speech that really didn't have anything having to do with what syria, clearly there's intelligence on the ground that has u.s. officials concerned. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. all the latest intelligence indicates that the u.s., nato, and particularly the syrian people are really staring the worst case scenario directly in the face. just about the time rebel forces started to make significant advances in the capital da m damascus, u.s. officials tell nbc news that the assad regime informed its chemical weapons corps to get prepared. and just about that time, u.s
. government's twice the size it was 11 years ago. and a good portion of that's discretionary. military, my colleagues have kind of a blind eye when it comes to the defense department. there's so much waste in the defense department, it's unbelievable. we could take another $50 billion, in my estimation, or $40 billion a year out of the defense department if we ran it right. you know, we have 1200 generals and flag officers now. at the end of world war ii, we had 2,000. we had 12.5 million people under arms, we've got 1.5 million. we've good an admiral for almost every ship in the navy right now. we've had this crete in terms of rank. there's all sorts of money to be saved in the pentagon that will have no effect whatsoever on our defensive posture or our capability. >> but steve, i'm curious, though. what is the difference, in your opinion, between raising the top marginal rate and closing some loopholes? if you get $1.2 trillion in revenue, why does it matter so much more to the president that you do it by raising the top rate when the super wealthy, as we've described on the show, aren't
in this very same area. but the actual new work could be years away. additionally the government also gave the green light to construction of 3,000 other units in east jerusalem and elsewhere on the west bank. at the weekly cabinet meeting, benjamin netanyahu dismissed criticism of the settlement construction, saying, quote. we will carry on building in jerusalem and all places on the map of israel's strategic interests if the settlement plans proceed, palestinians say they will destroy any chance of a viable state. just a while ago secretary general says the plans is what he termed a fatal blow to peace. it has been two years now since negotiations have taken place. palestinians say there cannot be peace talks as long as the settlement construction continues. israelis say no negotiations as long as there is any type of preconditions. stalemate continues. >> heather: david lee miller, thank you. >> gregg: kansas city chiefs taking the field one day after losing one of their own. he killed his girlfriend before heading to the stadium when he killed himself right in front of the head coach a
and majoritarianism. winning elections is the easy part. the question is whether they can govern, whether there's any tolerance for minorities, for multiple points of view. he did a power grab. there's now pushback. i think it's wrong to assume, though, that all the people pushing back are necessarily democrats. >> no. >> a lot of people are just going to try to take advantage. >> but everybody's pushing back, and certainly elements of mubarak's regime are looking for an opportunity to regain some power. but you also have coptic christian pushing back, other islamists pushing back, some even more extreme. >> exactly. >> you have all elements pushing back here. i'm absolutely bewildered as to why morsi thought he could get away with this. >> these are guys, morsi, who are either in jail or in the streets in opposition for their entire careers. they come into office. why would we think that they spent all their time out of office reading the federalists papers in arabic translations? they didn't. the only political game they know how to play is the old play. >> get power. >> seize it. in this case, the
overseas, with the growing concern, the syrian government came resort to using chemical weapon, turkey is building up its defenses along its southern border. nato has agreed to deploy patriot missile systems to as many as 10 potential sites making a point of stressing the defensive nature of the weapons shipment. nato and the u.s. have warned assad that any use of chemical weapons will be met with an immediate international response. >>> egyptian president morsi has returned to the presidential palace this morning after being forced out last night by angry mobs. riot police fired tear gas at crowds topping 100,000 people who overran barricades at the palace and cairo. demonstrators are an or morsmor constitution saying it contains limits on individual liberty and puts too much power in the hands of the president. his administration says the constitution establishes democracy. protesters also took to tahrir square and nearly a dozen newspapers stopped publication to protest the new constitution's lack of support for freedom of speech. >>> and finally, quick business headlines before we
, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 9 % of americans -- 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. >> house speaker john boehner is not ready to make a deal, but some members of his caucus think it's time to start talking about getting past the tax debate. oklahoma republican tom coles is one and joins me now. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> is there a way to move the tax debate forward to start talking about the spending cuts you want to see locked in? isn't the tax debate now blocking progress towards the larger issue which is getting -- attacking the deficit with real spending cuts? >> i think there is, but let me make very apparent i think the speaker is right. i think the proposal he's put on the table is a great
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